WebNow, when they heard that the Gibeonites had made a special treaty with the Israelites they got very angry. And they went to Joshua, to the camp at Gilgal, and said to him and to the men of Israel, "We have come from a far country; now therefore, make a covenant with us. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. The stories of such people like Abel, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and on through the chapter give us hope that like them we can overcome and be assured of entering the Kingdom of God. Web11 Then the king sent for the priest Ahimelek son of Ahitub and all the men of his family, who were the priests at Nob, and they all came to the king. 0 responses Perhaps those first two, Armoni, and Mephibosheth were old enough to have participated in the event. There is no biblical account of this escapade of Saul and his house against Gibeon. The latter believed that Saul's desire was to destroy them utterly. It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. Back to the Gibeonitesmost people probably did not remember it. It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. So they performed all that the king commanded. This was a long time ago. God has torn the kingdom from you. This traditional doctrine, as heard in a Catholic or Protestant church, would say that this sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden rests upon us still. We have an easier time identifying with the flawed, but heroic, Lancelot from the legends of King Arthur, because he is a lot more like ushe commits sin; he has faults. It is not genetic. Then Gibeon was a mile or two more to the north-northwest. Moreover, Samuel said, "What have you done? Who was the father of Mephibosheth? And the Lord said, "There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. Saul tried to get back his throne from God by doing what he thought was right, what he thought was zealous for God, by getting rid of the foreignersincluding the Gibeonitesthat were among them. Because he may have been still depressed by Absalom's death. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. 1316). Guilt for sin is not hereditary. Now if the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as He swore to your fathers, and gives you the land which He promised to give to your fathers, and if you keep all these commandments and do them, which I command you today, to love the LORD your God and to walk always in His ways, then you shall add three more cities for yourself besides these three, lest innocent blood be shed in the midst of your land which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and thus guilt of bloodshed be upon you. He has mercy, and holds the curses to just a few generations, but He allows the results of doing righteousness to last forever. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. What have they done? He was tired of life, tired of war, tired of all the politics, tired of all the rebellion, tired of Joab. Yes, my lord, he answered. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. We had before that the episode with Amnon and Tamar. It is in II Samuel 21. In fact, look down to verse 15, II Samuel 21:15-17 When the Philistines were at war again with Israel, David and his servants with him went down and fought against the Philistines; and David grew faint. Has the book of Amos been fulfilled or is it a reference to end times? Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. And your strength shall be spent in vain; for your land shall not yield its produce, nor shall the trees of the land yield their fruit. The time had passed. Joshua did try to make lemonade out of his lemons. I am putting this all together from history. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. And the Lord said, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and And we bear the guilt with them for that. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. he put the Gibeonites to death. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. WebVetus Testamentum 24:1 (January 1974):1-7.] And if He sinned, then He could not be our Savior. They did not seek God in this matter. The breach of contract was serious enough that God sent the famine in response. Time to retire!" King David was probably huffing and puffing, "I can't lift this thing! We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. God is warning here that sin has consequences. He did not do a thing that a king or judge should do. And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. Back in I Samuel 15, Saul was told by God through Samuel to go up against the Amalekites, and to destroy everything in sight, do not spare anything; exterminate them. Instead, David brings back twice as many. WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." It is tainted.". Gibeon was situated very close to Gibeah the home town of Sauls family. It does not matter. Jew or gentile? Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. Whatever the case, it is very plain to me that he did not pay enough attention to this matter of the famine and drought, and the Gibeonites. He gets kicked down the societal ladder for his sin, and it takes three or four generations for the family to recover. In some ways, the story centers around covenants or treaties, one made between Israel and the Gibeonites in Joshua 9, another between Jonathan and David in 1 Sam. It has got to go. September 01 2013 Then they were able to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forward by the strength that God gave them to overcome and to grow, and to put on the mindthe characterof Christ. There were big problems, and one of them was the consequences and effects of Saul and his bloodthirsty house. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." On the other hand, when people do well, like Abraham, and they live God's way of life, this allows God the leeway to show mercy unto thousands of generations of people. but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. WebSaul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. There is demotion. If we were reading this quickly, and not really thinking about it, and not understanding God's own character, we might think that this says that God allows the guilt of sin to pass down three or four generations. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. King David is mentioned by name as a hero of faith. They wanted the God of Israel to take it in the eye. Good question. He was endangering the whole army by being out there, an old man trying to fight like a young man. THE BATTLES OF THE LORD At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. Were they participants in killing the Gibeonites? It certainly happened because it says there in verses 1 and 2 that Saul killed a lot of Gibeonites at some point in his reign. A little further down, we read: II Samuel 21:2 . THE STORY OF THE GIBEONITES - Also, they were hanged on the hill before the Lord. God revealed that this calamity happened because of "Saul and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites ." He just let them walk all over him. The Gibeonites decided on a different strategy. How many died in bar-fights? Skeptic turned believer, Catholic, father of 3, ABC/DTS graduate, guitar music ministry Baptist church. VERSE 2. Where have you been, David? Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. Therefore, they arrive in the camp of Israel, and say, "Where's your leader? We are talking about the possibility of only two of the seven even remotely having any guilt in this matter whatsoever. By deluding himself that he could solve any problem; by presuming that the end justifies the means; by deliberately countermanding clear and specific orders from the Most High God; Saul not only failed to remove an evil people from the land, he also guaranteed the ultimate destruction of his own family. In addition, his own soldiers had to tell him, "David, you just don't have it anymore. But the massacre of the Gibeonites probably occurred after that. How many died in sicknesses? David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. Rizpah, Lord Alfred Tennyson in 1878. God spared them as a people, but His nation condemned them to endless servitude. Jonathan. He decided to let the Gibeonites dictate everything. So they thought, "Hmm. Why are they where they were? This has become known as the "eye for an eye principle." And they sent them to Joshua at Gilgal. This incident appears in time sequence toward the end of his life. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.". And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." The Gibeonites joined in the fight against the Philistines B. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. Much later, King Saul ignored this covenant of peace and killed some Gibeonites. It was as if David earlier said, "Let's just get this out of the way. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. Ezekiel 18:19-20 Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' It says that they were Saul's sons. However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". For the Gibeonites, their wily guile and deception gained them survival and nothing more. Why did Herod like to listen to John the Baptist, who criticized Herods lifestyle? WebTranslation Details for 2 Samuel 21:1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. For a relatively small group the Gibeonites drove a hard bargain and soon it was a done deal. You had to go up quite a bit. David did not come to this with any regal neutrality in the least. The young lions lack and suffer hunger; but those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. So Joshua made peace with them, and made a covenant with them to let them live; and the rulers of the congregation swore to them. Then there are things of degeneracy. There are things like destruction for their sin, and the family takes that long to recover from that destruction. David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. Each generation had to live out its days as "hewers of wood and carriers of water". WebThe Philistines decided not to attack D. God gave Saul three options to choose from as he went out against the Philistines. This incident of the famine took place rather late in David's life. Go coach! So, others besides Saul were guilty. And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. What should we get out of this? If you read Psalm 51 it is very clear that he understood his own makeup. Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. In Rizpahs case, her husband, King Saul, broke his promise that the Israelites would spare the Gibeonites in battle; he ordered the Israelites to annihilate them. He had to plead to God for clearing and forgiveness, for cleaning up, because he knew it was not in himself to do that. But, they like the dark one because he is moody, and doing things not for quite the right reasons. PHARAOH AND HAMAN - Jesus Christ should be everyone's ultimate hero. II Samuel 21:14 So they performed all that the king commanded. The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. Justice seems to have been served. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. The Israelites had been dealing with the Gibeonites, who were Hivitesand as it says here, they were a part of the Amorite peoplesince the first days in the land under Joshua. Then, they went after Jericho, and it fell. So he brought up the bones of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from there; and they gathered the bones of those who had been hanged. The Gibeonites merely asked for a mutual help pact that would guarantee not only mercy and aid from Israel, but protection from their common enemies. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. It cut us off from God. Another group, however, argues that as God's anointed king, Then there is another thing. What is the meaning of the parable of the rich man and his manager? Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. Saul and the Pharisees persecuted and killed the Christians, The sons of King Saul were killed as a result of this attempted genocide, The non-Christian inhabitants of Jerusalem were destroyed in AD70 Gods judgment on them for murdering his son and doubtless, the early Christians. He says to watchbe aware, be awake, be vigilant; know what your spiritual state is. This is pretty clear. It is easy to read this story blithely, and to think that David righted some longstanding wrongs that had happened, and then God happily sent rain to the parched land of Israel. Ezekiel 18 makes it clear that God punishes people for their own iniquity. God is not bloodthirsty, but He had told them what to do. Why were genealogies so important to Israel? 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. SERIES INTRODUCTION There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. That is basically how it was. He then tells David that he can't marry Michal until he brings Saul 100 Philistine foreskins, thinking that David will definitely die in this attempt. God's correction may come a Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. Why was Satan so effective in influencing the actions of Eve? You are getting later and later in David's life here. A lot can happen in two years. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" One of them toward the end of this list is King David. How much food did Jesus produce? They knew all the things God had stipulated about what they were to do when Israel was going to come into the land. What is meaning of 2 Cor. Two years is a long time. In reading the Psalms, on the other hand, we get an idea of just how grateful he was for God's forgiveness and grace, because I believe he was aware of just what a rotten individual he really was. The "Great Debate" between Nixon and Kennedy had not occurred yet. They were going to come in there and just exterminate. Why wasn't I told about this?" Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! When this righteous ruler turned to God, the Lord showed him that arrogant error of his predecessor. Now, if we would go through II Samuel 24, that even though David made a huge mistake in chapter 21, he did it right in chapter 24. You do not know. Such a shame to destroy it all! He needed God to forgive him. When were threatened by a Philistine attack, Saul he disobeyed Jehovah by offering a sacrifice instead of waiting for Samuel to do it. And they took old sacks on their donkeys, old wineskins torn and mended, old and patched sandals on their feet, and old garments on themselves; and all the bread of their provision was dry and moldy. There is more space given to David's flaws than anyone else in the whole Bible. Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. The words "thirty" and "forty" are not in the original Hebrew. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." It was certainly alive and well in Israel. King David was perhaps the only converted person in the entire nationmaybe besides the high priest of the time, but we do not know. But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. Web2 Samuel 21:2 indicates that King Saul pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off "in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah" (2 Samuel 21:5). And we are supposed to be ready. 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. 'Whoever kills a person, the murderer shall be put to death on the testimony of witnesses [another layer that comes in]; but one witness is not sufficient testimony against a person for the death penalty. Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. There is a difference. If, in the event the Israelis ever came their way, they would be servants to the people of Israel. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. They had advance warning. In 1 Samuel 10, Saul first tries to kill David by straight up pinning him to the wall with his spear, but David dodges twice. Another possibility is that when Saul slew many of the priests at Nob he also executed many Gibeonites (1 Samuel 22:19). They are going to cause problems. Obviously, having seen what happened to Jericho and Ai, they knew God and Israel were serious. LAMECH: FALL OUT FROM POLYGAMY; Therefore, there was a different system of justice than what the Gentiles were used to. In fact, it can be read as if David approached it as only a minor administrative matter. WebSaul kills the gentile Gibeonites (2 Sam 21) & banishes mediums in preparation for Tabernacle being moved from Nob to Gibeon. They were appeasing their own god to send rain. And Samuel says, "See? His anger at the However, there was a difference between Israel's version and the Gentiles' principle of vengeance or retribution. If you look at a map in the back of your Bible which has something to do with the conquest of Israel, you will see that Gilgal is right over the Jordan River, just on the eastern side of the land. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. There was a covenant with those people that not only Joshua and the people honored, but also God Himself honored as well. Throughout the centuries, the original Gibeonites continued to exist as a people, although King Saul schemed to destroy them. The Gibeonites, howev We have our own sins to pay for; we do not pay for theirs. The midrash states that when Saul learned of this, he was angry with his daughter and demanded of her: Why did you deceive me and let my enemy escape? We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? The rains did not come after the Days of Unleavened Bread when these seven men were executed. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? He became jealous and he went wacko, basically. "There was a famine in the days of King David for three years, year after year. So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". If you read 2Samuel 21 carefully, it seems possible that Saul and his house may have been trying to get the Gibeonites territory. They do what their flesh tells them to dowhat Satan inspires them to want to doand they do it. Pagan cultures were killed because they were pagan cultures and they were making war on Gods people. Is that what happened?" Nob. This cultural thing about wanting our heroes flawed is so deeply ingrained in us that we cannot imagine anyone going through life without sin. The chronicler, herewhoever he wasis giving us a big hint that David's attention was elsewhere for three whole years. With all the recent rebellions, he was probably worried that his alliances were going to fail, because he may have appeared to weaken. It only says that God heeded the prayer of the land. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. He is able to judge justly. They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. And those two are questionable. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Now, if they participated in his sin, then of course, they will bear the guilt for their participation in that sin. A snare is a trap. However, the Gibeonites did. This is very, very important for this vignette in King David's life. Vote Up They quailed at what they heard that Joshua and Israel had done at Jericho and Ai. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. The verb is used in this sense with respect to Joshua's action toward the Gibeonites in Joshua 9:27, where cultic servitude is involved ("for the altar of the Lord"). This may have only been a couple of months later. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. And you shall take no ransom for him who has fled to his city of refuge, that he may return to dwell in the land before the death of the priest [no way of getting out of that either; he has to serve his whole time]. The Gibeonites were a very shrewd bunch of people. There were no conditions. He wanted to go do something else. Joshua 9:14 is the key to Israel's problem. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. Now, we move forward, not very long in time, to Joshua 9. What I am trying to show you by going through these different places is that there is plenty of law that King David could have looked back on. WebOne of the mothers of the men hanged by the Gibeonites protected the bodies of Saul's sons from birds and wild beasts day and night. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. 21:1-11 ). That is not what it says here. It causes a problem in the way that the next generation is formed. Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. The Israelites had taken an oath concerning them, but in his zeal for Israel and Judah, Saul had sought to kill them.) Now that we have established that there was a horrible massacre at some point in the past, remember there was sin, and there was a crime committed. He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. 17 Then the children of Israel journeyed and came to their cities on the third day. All they wanted, they said, was a peace treaty with Israel; then they would return to their distant home. "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? In the economy of God's providence, however, such tiny events often matter much. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. Other Translations for 2 Samuel 21:1 Discussion for 2 Samuel 21 View All I Samuel 14:47-48 So Saul established his sovereignty over Israel, and fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, against the people of Ammon, against Edom, against the kings of Zobah, and against the Philistines. He allowed his actions to be dictated by the Gentile principle of retributionvengeancerather than God's law on such matters. And it would have been done quickly and easily. He was humble and relied on God, and was granted many victories over Israels enemies. Things started to go downhill over time however, as Saul became presumptuous and arrogant; he ignored several direct commands of God, and the last straw came when he interfered in offering a sacrifice to God, in direct contravention of what hed been told to do. Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. The problem was that God had not told Saul to do this, God had told Joshua to do that. If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. Other people do not carry the guilt for that person's sin. Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.". Later, during a wasting famine, David, attempting a political rather than a righteous solution, yielded to the Gibeonites' request that descendants of Saul be hanged to avenge the slaughter. Lets be clear from the very beginning, David was kind to Mephibosheth for his father Jonathans sake (2 Samuel 9:1). Mephibosheth was only five ye Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. Vote Up The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. 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