JavaScript is disabled. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? It may not display this or other websites correctly. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. Well, I am right with you. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. You are using an out of date browser. these are quite uncommon. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. You are using an out of date browser. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. JavaScript is disabled. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? Swapped! The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? Learn how your comment data is processed. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. ugh! Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. CLK, W209. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). How much power can you get out of the 16v? I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Navigation Menu. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). Use it however you wish or block it off. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. When you find one, buy it. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. My M104 is a 99 hfm. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? __________________. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Originally Posted by Kestas. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. You must log in or register to reply here. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. Power will be greater with an LS swap. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? Said it made around 345hp(?) After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. All bolt-in, no welding required. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. Yup, that's John's car. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. Wow, Thanks for all the info. Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. I was just giving you a hard time. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. Any slk egne fit in there? As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. It barely sticks now when floored. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Learn how your comment data is processed. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. via Oppositelock. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Is a swap possible? AMG would be nice and or a V8. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Engine Swap Depot. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. His forum name is SG Motorsports. What engine can fit into this car? You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Sweden for a dyno tune. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. haha, no worries! I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. Was real nice. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? it isnt a direct swap. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. Is that a street car? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Remove with transmission attached. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. 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