I have very good reasons for my feelings towards your beloved order. Phoenix, AZ And we must distinguish between the two. St. Catharines, ON The society rejects the second vatican council and the new mass although officially dont deny the validity of the sacraments as they are in the new rite. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm I suppose that you wont change your mind, as you have said that you already looked at the links above, but I wanted you to know (with my greatest respect for you) that the Lazarus story does not add strength to the thrice-condemned divine mercy case. Please look more closely at this. The Missive Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass Lastly, my contact confirmed that indeed something in 2012 caused Fr. For once youre ranting, raving & complaining about something other than us evil sedevacantists! Terry Carroll, like his pastor, did too, and that personal vendetta against the Society (and unwillingness to go full bore after the dangers associated with the Council, the new Mass, and the actions of the pope) has since been adopted by Michael Voris as well. Gerard Saguto, FSSP was born and lived on Long Island, where his mother continues to live. Terry is a parishioner at Mater Dei parish, run by the FSSP, in Irving, TX. Gerard Saguto, FSSP We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. And it comes from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth. Youngstown, OH. Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. We would like to express our deepest gratitude to Fr. Fort Wayne, IN Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. Youll note CMTV covered that school in an on-site special just as loyalties were pulling at its seams. ******** God love you! Dear Louie, Keep up the great work. dear marian& all, http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. This means that love is the basis of being a member of the Church, as it is supposed to be the basis of being a member of a home. 4. Many people think the Dimond bros are fanatics (God knows what they would think of St. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ or even St. Paul or St. Catherine of Sienna etc.) In other words I am speaking about what the group believes officially and publicly. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. What did Our Lord Jesus say: by the love you have for one another will they know you and love your enemies, be good to those who hate you and persecute you. So I hope we can say that we whole heartedly agree that such warm discourse between sedevacanists & Catholics who oppose is the way not only that it should be, but it is the way we are called to be. Cardinal Burke has been very clear: If Pope Francis puts in place a program allowing the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion apart from a true remedy (e.g., an annulment) he will not follow; rather, he said he will maintain the true faith. The objective truth isnt really all that difficult to see here with respect to the Councils standing in relation to the truths of the faith as they have always been taught. He also is a member of that parish, and the words he used to describe Fr. marian I was there in the pew EVERY time. Sacred Heart Church Location: 1020 Capitol Ave - Fort Wayne, IN 46806 Mass Time: Sun 11:30 am Phone number: (219) 744-2519 Priest: Fr Daniel Leeuw North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. Fr. Sunday 22nd October. Fawning over Paul VI, Divine Mercy blather & countless other things. If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. b) Moreover, I should like to remind theologians and other experts in the ecclesiastical sciences that they should feel themselves called upon to answer in the present circumstances. To accuse the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peters members of be responsible for the break-up of marriages is scurrilous and reprehensible. There are so many dangers coming down the pike that I find it hard to believe this issue is taking up so much air time and energy. There are valid consecrations within masses said by schismatics. He wont say aloud it now for reasons that well discuss shortly. Rev. Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. I do believe that theres a thread of influence and someone as familiar with these personalities as Louie would do well to explore it. For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. The SSPX is not and never has been in schism. The good taste and good judgement of this project is thanks to the pastor, Fr. Hello john6. If I ever respond with animosity (real or perceived) or have a defensive reaction, I take full responsibility for that & ask forgiveness for the vice it represents. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). I am glad to be able to stay on course with what Louie provides here. The archdioceses Office of Ministerial Standards brought the information related to Father Saguto to law enforcement, and law enforcement has advised us that they are not initiating a criminal investigation, the archbishop said. If Terry Carroll was just another CMTV premium member with an axe to grind, would Michael Voris have done this same about face? Atlanta, GA This is a good and reasonable rule for the protection of minors and avoiding issues (if . Richard M, No need to be so defensive i wrote a short paragraph to explain things to people who read the blog and comments. Ive recently come across many of his sermons online and found them to be quite useful. It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. Refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff by the Society can be seen in their refusal to reconcile and place themselves under the authority of the Vicar of Christ, rejecting his dogmatically defined full power of shepherding, ruling and governing the universal Church, a power ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over each and every member of the faithful.. Let Voris live in his blissful world. English-speaking Chaplain . The time and place has to be taken into consideration as well. Wolfe FSSP is true and public. Wolfes gem about things not coming into being by a legal declaration. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. I absolutely have always loved this film. Gruner was yet, so I looked past it in ignorance. That said, we disagree on the points you bring up. This rendition of an Internet TV Network has NOTHING to do with the Catholic Faith. What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. When I noticed, however, that his more recent talks include the subjects of Sr. Faustina and divine mercy in a favorable light, I turned him off. To me, devotion to the false divine mercy devotion of Sr. Faustina is an excellent indicator of how modernist a priest is. He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. I read this blog daily.I may post here about 3 times a week, if that, and I would hardly consider what I do hijacking. There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. . Rapid City, SD Furthermore, I do agree that Louies blog and the comments that follow are an excellent vehicle for enlightenment during these dark times. South Bend, IN Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. He replaces Fr. Father Wolfe has been transferred. Hope it may help someone to understand the complexity of it all. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. I assume, perhaps wrongly, that anyone who engages in any way with the Dimonds espouses their stance against Church teaching on BOD and BOB & other things I'll not mention here but you know what they are , I hope. Louie February 22, 2023 Blog Post No Comments. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. We are Baptized and likely Confirmed; that means that graces come with these two sacraments that put us on a path to meet God, throughout this life, at our judgment, and hopefully face-to-face in heaven for eternity. Houston, TX King and Drumm seemed to want it both ways. From Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda: I was notified Friday, November 8 that Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was recalled from his assignment as pastor of the Church of All Saints in Minneapolis by his religious community, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. As one who was there for this sermon (and many more), and class, I firmly state that he has NEVER attacked the SSPX. I like Rad Trad would like to say more but in Justice I can not. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. All evil? Omaha, NE As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. It helps me, anyway. or Will they remain under the standard of Satan? God bless. These attacks are coming from the FSSP, opus dei and novus ordo clerics working with them. Chesapeake, VA Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. I, for one, have found so many polite & dear empathetic souls here on Mr. V.s site who treat me wth tender kindness even on my worst days, and would never even think of bringin up my myriad flaws & throw them in my face. Springdale, AR While a routine and discipline are important (assuming these has been achieved in some measure), mindless routine and lack of discipline prey upon the vitality we, deep down, sense the Faith should inspire. Is there no one out there who can challenge poikolby and rich, and others here who detract from the reputations of these men, and from the reputation of the FSSP but me? It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. It long predated the actions in question of either of them. When making comments please consider that there is a tsunami of baptized Catholics following us who dont have the foggiest idea of what is going on in the Church, and that popular blogs no matter what their angle may be the platform they have to grasp the issues. Fr. Saskatoon, SK ********** Oklahoma City, OK I will say this: Stay away from the FSSP, Taylor Marshall and CMTV. But not so with you, you came forth to talk. Faithful Catholics do not have time to be having this debate with the Synod just around the corner. I know he is a good priest striving for holiness. North American Martyrs Parish is a Roman Catholic parish in Edmonds, Washington, served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). The FSSP superiors have already been notified: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-john-emerson-fssp-on-his-break-from-the-sspx Will the FSSP leaders act? This reality does in fact place the FSSP under the standard of Satan objectively. I didnt see you mention (granted -perhaps I missed it?) Sometimes we are trite, blunt, even silly. than we do. http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. for your information, Im no spring chicken myself. Love your enemies, be good to those who hate you is not a suggestion. And we must distinguish between the two. This argument is fair enough; objective reality isnt subject to legal pronouncements. This isnt the behavior of a man who had a change of heart based on a new awareness of truth. Do you have any insight on this? That should be past tense, i.e. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. . I worship in an SSPX Parish and I know full well why Im there. In my experience Ive found them to be extremely obedient people who were obedient as children. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? Subjectively, the pope will recognize their jurisdiction at that point. The best way is to always talk about principles not personalities. In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. (I also think Drumms defense of the Dudley affair is unpersuasive. all the time & with mutually expressed warmth. Lexington, KY The recovery from this disaster will be a century long. I will look at the link of this man who was dead. Brookville, IN It was simply too painful for many lay people to take. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. The question of the FSSP really is a question of doctrine,principle and new mass. Will the FSSP issue a public statement rebuking Voris and CMTV? Even more so, things that are most important also have an uncanny ability to expose our personal limits and insecurities, which we find threatening as they leave us open to criticism, and so engaging them carries its own risks. addressed to TWN, De maria. I talk to a lot of people In and about the Fraternity. ****** Stay away. No sedevacantists disagree on this. *** A couple decades ago I wrote for a very popular trad bi-monthly which I will not name, whose editor said a now famous statement: You can tell they are Catholics by their hate. Fort Worth, TX John 10:11], http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1870-will-you-die-for-him-a-sermon-on-the-eve-of-persecution-in-america, (3) SSPX now that it is wanting to be in full communion w/heretics is pretty silent itself. The upcoming Synod will be a real evil. Sarasota, FL If Ratzinger is leading people to hell, denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, contradicting Jesus Christ (re: valid covenant of Jews) and committing sacrilege, Ratzinger is NOT good. The priest claimed that his superior forbid him from submitting to fingerprinting and that out of obedience he had to refuse to follow the diocesan policy. Ad Orientem: Why is the Mass Celebrated Facing East? And what does Taylor Marshalls video have to do with the closing? If left unchecked, we find ourselves in a rut where it seems we are just spinning the wheels; meaning about things that should be important gets confused, or even lost, and a frustration with life begins to set in. The early Christians were hiding from the pagans in their day, says Michael Matt in this video: I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. Maple Hill, KS But with any worthwhile risk comes the true opportunity for growth: a gaining of self-knowledge, peace, perspective, and competency. NEWSPAPERS. In charity, I pray that every Catholic should be as blessed. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. And this goes unchallenged! It was not accepted due to faulty translations. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? For the person who knows that the Council is a grave danger to the faith, they have no problem advising against them allowing themselves (and their kids) to be formed in an FSSP parish since we have an obligation to engage those things that threaten to lead us away from the faith. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. (Remember, divine mercy had been condemned 3 times.) Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. Seattle, WA Post Falls, ID Following post talks about SSPX censorship of sermon criticizing Francis: Thank you, john6. I wish I could make your comment flash in bright colors. Christendom College will see three of its alumni ordained as priests this summer. rich, you bring up an important subject, if you will, when you mention the mans evasiveness regarding serious matters of Faith. 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